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But you are judging His comprehension by human standards and not by His standards which was way beyond our understanding.

What I am saying is, we cannot fully know what He knows or how He knows, because we don’t have the capacity for such understanding.

What fixes the future? The freewill choice of individuals. So free choice results in fixation of events, which in turn results in God’s perfect knowledge of those events.

You and Geoff keep saying that if the future is fixed and knowable, then there can’t be any freedom, as if that were somehow an undeniable axiom. Geoff even goes so far as to say that my denial doesn’t make it untrue. Of course, I know my denial doesn’t MAKE it untrue. It’s untrue all by itself. It’s a nonsequitur.

Again you put words and meanings in my mouth. I have never once meant that. You are limiting Heavenly Father’s knowedge to the realm of human understanding. I am not going to repeat what I said as you don’t seem to understand it. But I will say again that we CANNOT know what method He uses because our understanding, our comprehension is so limited. You place human capablities on our God. That’s always going to backfire on you.