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	<title>Comments on: First Vision</title>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6386</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOWZERS people.

K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOWZERS people.</p>
<p>K.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6383</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not avoiding it. I have not seen an opportunity that caused me to present my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not avoiding it. I have not seen an opportunity that caused me to present my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: ltbugaf</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6368</link>
		<dc:creator>ltbugaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if simple declarations of personal belief are all you want, why do you so assiduously avoid making your own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if simple declarations of personal belief are all you want, why do you so assiduously avoid making your own?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6312</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to explain why it is or is not feasible to believe angels were present. I asked you a simple question, and quite frankly I was hoping for a simple answer. I was hoping you would actually say whether you thought there were angels present or not, not try to put together a thesis on the possibility of it having happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need to explain why it is or is not feasible to believe angels were present. I asked you a simple question, and quite frankly I was hoping for a simple answer. I was hoping you would actually say whether you thought there were angels present or not, not try to put together a thesis on the possibility of it having happened.</p>
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		<title>By: ltbugaf</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6272</link>
		<dc:creator>ltbugaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, look at #8 again.  If even one version of the First Vision story said it, then we&#039;re reasonable in concluding that it&#039;s true.

Now, look at #15 again.  There&#039;s no reason to believe it&#039;s not true.

Do you need any more help putting this together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, look at #8 again.  If even one version of the First Vision story said it, then we&#8217;re reasonable in concluding that it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>Now, look at #15 again.  There&#8217;s no reason to believe it&#8217;s not true.</p>
<p>Do you need any more help putting this together?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6260</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 did not indicate whether you believe angels were present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 did not indicate whether you believe angels were present.</p>
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		<title>By: ltbugaf</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6238</link>
		<dc:creator>ltbugaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you didn&#039;t say that.  I&#039;ve been literate from a young age.

You asked whether I thought angels were present.  I assumed (foolishly, it turns out) that you desired an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you didn&#8217;t say that.  I&#8217;ve been literate from a young age.</p>
<p>You asked whether I thought angels were present.  I assumed (foolishly, it turns out) that you desired an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6231</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say there were no angels present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say there were no angels present.</p>
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		<title>By: ltbugaf</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6209</link>
		<dc:creator>ltbugaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Comment 7--what reason do we have to conclude there were no angels present?  The fact that they aren&#039;t mentioned in other accounts?  By that reasoning, should we then strike out of the four gospels any happening that isn&#039;t described in at least two of the four?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Comment 7&#8211;what reason do we have to conclude there were no angels present?  The fact that they aren&#8217;t mentioned in other accounts?  By that reasoning, should we then strike out of the four gospels any happening that isn&#8217;t described in at least two of the four?</p>
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		<title>By: ltbugaf</title>
		<link>http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/28/first-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-6182</link>
		<dc:creator>ltbugaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Comment 9

Unless my reading of Doctrine &amp; Covenants 129 is drastically wrong, I think we can be safe in this conclusion:  Merely looking at a being is not sufficient to tell whether that being is a spirit only or has a tangible body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Comment 9</p>
<p>Unless my reading of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/129" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: Doctrine &amp; Covenants 129">Doctrine &amp; Covenants 129</a> is drastically wrong, I think we can be safe in this conclusion:  Merely looking at a being is not sufficient to tell whether that being is a spirit only or has a tangible body.</p>
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