It was an interesting Elders Quorum discussion yesterday.?Ǭ� We had the chapter in the book on self reliance (chapter 11 I believe).?Ǭ� What I particularly liked about it was that we actually had a class discussion where different members of the quorum were talking?Ǭ�and asking questions to each other, not asking and answering me.

?Ǭ�When I presented the lesson, I took a pretty firm stance on the whole Self, Family, Church order of taking care of one’s needs.?Ǭ� A few in the class disagreed with that position.?Ǭ� I was actually happy that someone cared enough to want to discuss it in a non-confrontational way.?Ǭ� It was good.

?Ǭ�It still leaves me wondering where the need to serve outweighs the need to be self reliant.

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Two drunk men came into our sacrament meeting today and sat down at the back of the chapel. The bishopric asked me and my counsellor to keep an eye on them and escort them if they become disruptive. True to form, disruption occurred, and we escorted them out.

Then we came back and listened to a sermon on service.

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One of the most boring and/or predictable topics for sacrament talks or Sunday school/priesthood/Relief Society lessons is “service”. Often , the idea behind the message is that service brings one closer to Jesus or makes one humble or helps us develop love for our neighbours.

Surely there must be more unique, more insightful ways to present the topic of service in order to help others think about it more.

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