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Meetings Archives - Our Thoughts https://www.ourthoughts.ca/category/meetings/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:02:59 +0000 en-US hourly 1 44185677 Medical Emergency During Sacrament Meeting https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/01/12/medical-emergency-during-sacrament-meeting/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/01/12/medical-emergency-during-sacrament-meeting/#comments Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:10:28 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=1723 Sacrament meeting was very eventful yesterday.

With about 25 minutes left to go and half way through the third speakers talk, we had a medical emergency in the congregation.?Ǭ† This particular emergency happened smack dab in the middle of the chapel.?Ǭ† Very quickly, members close to the situation tried to assist and get control.?Ǭ† One quickly left and called 9-1-1 to summon the paramedics.

Now, if that wasn’t interesting enough, the response of the rest of the congregation was.

We had a member of the stake presidency sitting on the stand for our meeting (you know, the guy who is suppose to be presiding at the meeting).?Ǭ† He did absolutely nothing and sat there as if it was any other Sunday meeting.

Our bishop sent one of his counselors down to investigate.?Ǭ† The counselor, after assessing the situation, went out into the hallway and waited for the paramedics to arrive instead of reporting back to the bishop.

The speaker received no direction from the leadership on the stand.?Ǭ† He just stayed at the pulpit and continued to give his talk until he was done.?Ǭ† No effort was made to shorten it or look to the leadership for guidance.?Ǭ† He clearly didn’t have anybodies attention.?Ǭ† Everyone in the congregation was watching the unfolding drama happening in the pews.

After his talk, the other counselor instructed organ player to play interlude music while we all sat there.

When the paramedics arrived, the entire congregation sat and watched them work on this individual to a nice rendition of “I know that my redeemer lives”.

Nobody at any time attempted to give a blessing to the person in distress.

The themes of all the talks were… wait for it… ?Ǭ†”How to be better disciples of Christ”.

I cannot recall a time where I felt more akward in sacrament meeting.

Have you ever been in a sacrament meeting where a medical emergency has occured??Ǭ† How was the situation handled?

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Knighting an Apostle https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/10/17/knighting-an-apostle/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/10/17/knighting-an-apostle/#comments Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:03:09 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/10/17/knighting-an-apostle/ My Sister just sent this to me… Most funny! (Apologies if this has already been mentioned)

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?Ǭ†After President Hinckley finished with the sustaining of the officers
?Ǭ†of the church during the Saturday morning session, Elder Eyring had
?Ǭ†moved into his new seat on the stand. Unfortunately, they didn’t show
?Ǭ†this on TV, but when President Hinckley turned around, he stood there
?Ǭ†for a moment looking at Elder Eyring (probably with the little twinkle
?Ǭ†in his eye), then picked up his cane and “knighted” him on his
?Ǭ†shoulder and head. Truly one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen
?Ǭ†him do.

?Ǭ†Here’s the picture from it. I love how Elder Erying looks just like a
?Ǭ†little boy….
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http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/4668085.jpg?Ǭ†

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Getting it right https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/24/getting-it-right/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/24/getting-it-right/#comments Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:39:24 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/24/getting-it-right/ “O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this bread to the souls of all those who?Ǭ†drink of it, that they may eat in remembrance of the body of thy Son, and witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son, and always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may always have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.”

We were treated to this twice yesterday before our bishopric’s first counselor got up and pointed out the error to the frustrated, young priest.

?Ǭ†Then, we heard the following:

“O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this bread to the souls of all those who partake of it, that they may eat it in remembrance of the body of thy Son, and witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son, and always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may always have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.”

At which point the first counselor nodded his approval, not wanting to drag out the scene any more. (The bishop and?Ǭ†second counselor were away, so “Number One” was flying solo.)

After the sacrament was done and the Aaronic priesthood were dismissed, “Number One” felt inspired to give us a short, five minute talk about how valiant, and worthy, and diligent the young men were in performing their sacramental duty.?Ǭ† I think this was meant to somehow help the young priest save face, although it was just out of place and awkward to listen to.

But why go through all the effort of correcting him the first time, and why give the little speech at the end if you are?Ǭ†ultimately going to let the prayer be said incorrectly??Ǭ† What harm would there be to having him do it a fourth time, to hopefully get it right??Ǭ† Why was he more concerned about hurting the young fella’s feelings than getting the ordinance done correctly?

Which makes me wonder… does it really matter if the prayer was said correctly??Ǭ† If three wrong attempts are good enough, then surly two would have done the trick.?Ǭ† Did all 200 of us yesterday actually renew our covenants or did we just have a snack?

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Pros and Cons of Sacrament Meeting Times https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/02/pros-and-cons-of-sacrament-meeting-times/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/02/pros-and-cons-of-sacrament-meeting-times/#comments Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:54:00 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/09/02/pros-and-cons-of-sacrament-meeting-times/ I was thinking about our Sacrament meeting time today. We meet 12:50?¢‚Ǩ‚Äú15:50. while I was thinking about, I recognized there were some good things about meeting at that time, as well as some bad things. Likewise, each meeting time I’ve had had similar pros and cons. I thought I’d list them here.

### 09:00?¢‚Ǩ‚Äú12:00

Pros
: Get to eat all 3 meals
: Have the entire afternoon for Sabbath activities
: Can nap at a reasonable time

Cons
: Can’t sleep in
: Less time to get ready
: Very little time for making adjustments to lessons

### 11:00?¢‚Ǩ‚Äú14:00

Pros
: Can nap at a reasonable time
: Can sleep in
: Some time for lesson prep
: Still some time for Sabbath activities

Cons
: Miss dinner
: Interfere with children nap times

### 13:00?¢‚Ǩ‚Äú16:00

Pros
: Can have all three meals
: Can sleep in
: Time for last minute lesson tweaks

Cons
: Can’t nap
: Little time for Sabbath activities

Any others?

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Church Essentials https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/05/07/church-essentials/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/05/07/church-essentials/#comments Mon, 07 May 2007 17:38:12 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/05/07/church-essentials/ If it was up to you to decide which doctrines and cultural practices were essential and which ones could be done away with, what would make your short list?

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“We all know the story of…” https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/12/we-all-know-the-story-of/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/12/we-all-know-the-story-of/#comments Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:02:54 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/12/we-all-know-the-story-of/ I cringe when I hear those words at church.

Usually, they are spoken by a Gospel Doctrine teacher when introducing a topic. I’m sure on any given Sunday, those words are mentioned a couple dozen times in any average ward.

The reason why I cringe is mostly because of my dear wife. She joined the church after her 18th birthday. She had very little exposure to the gospel before that. Her knowledge of things taught in primary could probably fit in a large thimble (ok, well, she probably knows more than she lets on, but it’s nowhere near what us BICers have encountered). Usually after a lesson in which those words are mentioned, she asks me about the story that the teacher was referring to. I do my best to explain it. She usually mentions something like “well, knowing that would have helped to make sense of the lesson”.

Another variant is the phrase “We all know…”. This one is even worse. It’s not just a story, but usually some cultural church practice or perhaps some meaty chunk of doctrine. The instructor usually glosses over the important parts and dives right into his / her analysis, leaving my poor wife in the dust.

I’ve noticed it’s lessons or discussions / talks like this that make church services so unpleasant for my wife. After a consecutive string of Sundays like this, she usually wants a break and we all take a rest from going to church.

I guess what really baffles me is the fact that we are suppose to be a missionary minded church. We are suppose to be ‘inviting others to Christ’, but when they get here, we treat them as if they’ve been here all along and end up frustrating the heck out of them.

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How to dress for church meetings? https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/11/29/how-to-dress-for-church-meetings/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/11/29/how-to-dress-for-church-meetings/#comments Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:47:32 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/11/29/how-to-dress-for-church-meetings/ After reading a post (and comments) over at Nine Moons, I was reminded with something more relevant in my life. I attend a weekly church meeting in which some present wear Sunday clothes and others present wear jeans and t-shirts.

Should weekday church meeting attendees dress as they would for Sunday church meetings, or should dress options be completely open ended?

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Fashion and administering the sacrament https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/07/10/fashion-and-administering-the-sacrament/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/07/10/fashion-and-administering-the-sacrament/#comments Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:50:02 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/07/10/fashion-and-administering-the-sacrament/ Which do you think is worse when blessing/passing the sacrament: a long-sleeved, coloured shirt and tie, or a short-sleeved white shirt and tie.

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Visiting Other Wards https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/11/visiting-other-wards/ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/11/visiting-other-wards/#comments Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:50:50 +0000 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/11/visiting-other-wards/ Why is it when people visit other wards (for baby blessings, “homecomings”, “farewells”, whatever), they rarely, if ever, attend Sunday School or priesthood/Relief Society?

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